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Freak-A-Zoid
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 Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: The Next Step: TB-303, SH-101, MC-202 combined! |
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I think this would be the next natural step. These synths have some much in common that it shouldn't be that much more to combine the best of the three into one XOX monster. There are currently no MC-202 emulations and the Sonic Timeworks SH-101 was not that great.
So what do you think?
I miss my SH-101  |
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easymode
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont see what 303 has in common with 202/101 (which are the same indeed) |
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Freak-A-Zoid
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| The TB-303 is related more in the era plus it's a Roland too. I know the filters differ in specs but I think the 101(202) is a synth that can do a very close 303 emulation if programmed properly. Also toss in a Kenton mod that adds CV control of the filter and slide as well for sequencing. Browse the analogue heaven forum archives and you'll see lots of mods (that could be easily done through software) of people getting a 303 "like" sound. On Josh Wink's "Higher State of Consciousness", contrary to popular belief, used a 202(101) instead of a 303 for that acid sound. |
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Ronny Pries
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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I personally think the demand for 101/202 alike synths isn't that huge due to the amount of already existing plugins. The market segment of monotimbral plugins is really flooded throughout the entire quality range. Maybe i don't get the point, what exactly do you miss about synthesizers like Triangle II, Iblit and the likes apart from the non-copied interface?
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Freak-A-Zoid
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not looking for a synth that can do SH-101 type of sounds, I'm looking for a synth that emulates a complete SH-101 (new features would be a bonus). If I just wanted a synth for acid I could have just stuck with Rebirth but I was looking for the closest 303 emulation like the Audiorealism version. Same with some of these little synths. Nice sounds but not an SH-101 or even analogue to my ears for that matter. |
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Ronny Pries
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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I think Iblit and Triangle mimic the 101/202 really good. In fact the overall 101/202 sound isn't too specific, the only features missing is the simple sequencer that didn't do any weird slide tricks or something similar. I'd agree they're not modelled after the originals but on the other hand i consider the originals beeing quite generic (imho). Blasphemy? Maybe. Just my 2 cents, i'm still not really convinced 
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easymode
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been tweaking the SH101 for many years, and i can tell you its impossible to mimic a 303, except on some very specific enveloppe/filter etc settings, but thats also possible with many other synths... |
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Freak-A-Zoid
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Ronny Pries wrote: | I think Iblit and Triangle mimic the 101/202 really good. In fact the overall 101/202 sound isn't too specific, the only features missing is the simple sequencer that didn't do any weird slide tricks or something similar. I'd agree they're not modelled after the originals but on the other hand i consider the originals beeing quite generic (imho). Blasphemy? Maybe. Just my 2 cents, i'm still not really convinced
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I know the SH-101 structure is pretty generic but on the same lines look at a Minimoog. What's the big deal with this synth? It has a very simple structure with not even a 4-stage envelope or dedicated LFO. There's so many other syntheizers that are more complex and can do so much more. So why is so much coveted? It has a unique character that people like and no other synthesizer can do. I feel the same about a SH-101. Actually even more with the older SH series. I think they're pretty unique synthesizers with character that deserve a good emulation. There are pretty decent emulations of a Minimoog now with GMedia and specially Creamware's Minimax which I own but there's nothing out there at the same level for the SH-101. |
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easymode
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Try the VAZ stuff for SH sound.
I dont say it sounds the same though, but its the best i found to approach SH character... |
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Freak-A-Zoid
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zooloo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| I must say, the TC-01 sounds great.. I cannot tell you how it compares to the real thing (the 101) coz I've never user used a 101, but the TC synth is sweet... screaming leads and growling basses... love it! |
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Ronny Pries
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Freak-A-Zoid wrote: | | I know the SH-101 structure is pretty generic but on the same lines look at a Minimoog. What's the big deal with this synth? It has a very simple structure with not even a 4-stage envelope or dedicated LFO. There's so many other syntheizers that are more complex and can do so much more. So why is so much coveted? It has a unique character that people like and no other synthesizer can do. I feel the same about a SH-101. Actually even more with the older SH series. I think they're pretty unique synthesizers with character that deserve a good emulation. There are pretty decent emulations of a Minimoog now with GMedia and specially Creamware's Minimax which I own but there's nothing out there at the same level for the SH-101. |
I always rated the Minimoogs' own character to be more outstanding or special (also due to the filters used) than i.e. the 101s. Then again i start to see clearer now, thanks for your input. Since we're actually busy with projects already this could only be a consideration on far sight (if the demand for such a product is big enough).
Sincerly,
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easymode
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I must say, the TC-01 sounds great.. I cannot tell you how it compares to the real thing (the 101) coz I've never user used a 101, but the TC synth is sweet... screaming leads and growling basses... love it! |
I listened to the Vengeance sound mp3, and i cannot tell, as its always the same crap "trance" examples. They dont even demo filter or pwm modulations, so its just ridiculous. |
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amenbrother
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Freak-A-Zoid wrote: | | On Josh Wink's "Higher State of Consciousness", contrary to popular belief, used a 202(101) instead of a 303 for that acid sound. |
He actually used a 303 ! |
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